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Dikshita
# Posted: 9 Mar 2006 19:03


sorry to cause displeasure
but the link is working fine from my desktop
maybe fault is somewhere else?


foulaam
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Dikshita
# Posted: 29 Mar 2006 01:21


Kama, would you be so kind as to enlighten me on a subject that I think belongs to this thread: in Tantric practice, the male, to activate the Kundalini, is supposed to avoid ejaculation. As far as you're concerned (and according to your knowledge and experience), what are your feelings and advice on this?

Thank you very much.

Worship the Yoni.


Kama
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Rishi
# Posted: 30 Mar 2006 09:40


Kundalini is something that I really feel has been reinvented by so many teachers, that I no longer feel I know what it is.... I do know that many people seek Kundalini through methods that seem to cause them considerable confusion as the "effects" are unpredicatable and unmanagable.

I believe that it is very important to develop disciplined boundary within which to pratice before you go "off-piste"... That is why I practice pujas that are bounded by physical limitations such as orgasm.

Some men find delaying orgasm to be useful in ecstasy...however I have prefered the system where the man starts by not restricting himself and through regular pujas slowly finds that his body extends its own discipline...it is like cutting wood at first you tire easily...but as you cut everyday you find you can cut more wood before you tire...

I prefer such natural and gentle discipline rather than asking an anxious man to concentrate on a non-problem such as "premature-ejaculation"...

With the disciplined man who withholds ejaculation he must not fall out of rythm with his consort and so prevent her from her pleasure, otherwise he becomes self-centred in his pleasure and objectifies the woman as a tool.


I believe Sex with Men is Divine and draws me closer to my Gods. Kama's website
Lucio
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Dikshita
# Posted: 4 Apr 2006 12:41


Hello from Italy!

I think that before trying any kundalini session, anybody have to pass through some Reiki treatments. Even cristal therapy...
From Reiki anybody can then feel his spiritual route... and get some wise advices..
Ciao
Lucio


Hello from Italy!
Kama
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Rishi
# Posted: 5 Apr 2006 09:27


Can you tell me some more about Reiki...?


I believe Sex with Men is Divine and draws me closer to my Gods. Kama's website
Lucio
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Dikshita
# Posted: 7 Apr 2006 11:46


Here is a brief description of Reiki.
Anybody can become Reiki Master and try to heal themselves with the energy that we have inside us. there are 3 levels to accomplish, before becoming reiki master. I'm getting the second one....
now I'll post you a brief descriptio of reiki and then can you ask me anything you want, and also you can make some search in the internet.
Have a Nice day...
Lucio
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A Brief Overview
Reiki is a Japanese technique for stress reduction and relaxation that also promotes healing. It is administered by "laying on hands" and is based on the idea that an unseen "life force energy" flows through us and is what causes us to be alive. If one's "life force energy" is low, then we are more likely to get sick or feel stress, and if it is high, we are more capable of being happy and healthy.
The word Reiki is made of two Japanese words - Rei which means "God's Wisdom or the Higher Power" and Ki which is "life force energy". So Reiki is actually "spiritually guided life force energy."
A treatment feels like a wonderful glowing radiance that flows through and around you. Reiki treats the whole person including body, emotions, mind and spirit creating many beneficial effects that include relaxation and feelings of peace, security and wellbeing. Many have reported miraculous results.
Reiki is a simple, natural and safe method of spiritual healing and self-improvement that everyone can use. It has been effective in helping virtually every known illness and malady and always creates a beneficial effect. It also works in conjunction with all other medical or therapeutic techniques to relieve side effects and promote recovery.
An amazingly simple technique to learn, the ability to use Reiki is not taught in the usual sense, but is transferred to the student during a Reiki class. This ability is passed on during an "attunement" given by a Reiki master and allows the student to tap into an unlimited supply of "life force energy" to improve one's health and enhance the quality of life.
Its use is not dependent on one's intellectual capacity or spiritual development and therefore is available to everyone. It has been successfully taught to thousands of people of all ages and backgrounds.
While Reiki is spiritual in nature, it is not a religion. It has no dogma, and there is nothing you must believe in order to learn and use Reiki. In fact, Reiki is not dependent on belief at all and will work whether you believe in it or not. Because Reiki comes from God, many people find that using Reiki puts them more in touch with the experience of their religion rather than having only an intellectual concept of it.
While Reiki is not a religion, it is still important to live and act in a way that promotes harmony with others. Dr. Mikao Usui, the founder of the Reiki system of natural healing, recommended that one practice certain simple ethical ideals to promote peace and harmony, which are nearly universal across all cultures.
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Hello from Italy!
Mike
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Dikshita
# Posted: 7 Apr 2006 21:06


I wrote earlier about my son's experiences of Kundalini and his incarceration in mental institutions for the much of the time during the last five years.

He is currently detained under section 3 of the mental health act but has weekend leave.

At home he regularly looks up Kundalini on the internet.

He is looking for support to tell him that he is not mad but special.

One website he was looking at today was called
"Kundalini Survival & Support"

The implication being that Kundalini can be a dangerous force.

Another site he visited today posed these questions:

"Madness Poll.

An activated Kundalini commonly results in symptoms that can be confused with mental illness. This often causes a fear that one is going mad, and actually may cause a diagnosis of mental illness.

Questions:

How many of us have feared we were going mad. What symptoms caused this fear?

How many of us have been diagnosed with some form of mental illness?
What form?

How many of us have been hospitalized for mental illness? For how long?
"

The answers are here

There is much more of this sort on the internet some of it useful, some less so.

Kundalini is a very powerful force.

Don't mess with it.

- Mike


Kama
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Rishi
# Posted: 11 Apr 2006 11:00


I just so agree with Mike...Kundalini is too much of an unknown and without structure it can just shoot off in any direction, with no way to get back...


I believe Sex with Men is Divine and draws me closer to my Gods. Kama's website
Raven
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Dikshita
# Posted: 1 Aug 2006 09:49


Hello everyone, I suppose it is time I introduced myself and started posting, and what more interesting thread than this one. Over many years I have carried out work with Kundalini first under a hatha yoga teacher who specialised in pranayama (control of breath) then I became a kriya yoga initiate under swami anandakapila saraswati. Yes, kundalini is extremely powerful and training is best carried out under an adept. There is much great literature available on the subject. I can recommend The Serpent Power by Arthur Avalon (Sir John Woodroffe) and The Awakening of Kundalini by Gopi Krishna.

The trouble with the internet, unless you use sites like Google scholar, you have no idea whether you are being fed garbage or not.

There are two main schools of thought on how to raise the Fire Snake, the first relies on asanas, conbined with breath control and mind control. The second, the vama marg, is concerned with the union of shiva and shakti and the control of sexual energy to achieve the opening of the sahasrara chakra, the thousand petalled lotus.

The second path can be fraught with danger. It is extremely powerful. Think of letting a car driver who has just past their driving test loose on the road with a ferrari!


Kama
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Rishi
# Posted: 1 Aug 2006 21:07


This is good common sense and that is why I am so careful to make sure the Chakra Puja I use is delibrately structured to give my visitors a wonderful experience but without them going beyond well defined boundaries.


I believe Sex with Men is Divine and draws me closer to my Gods. Kama's website
Raven
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Dikshita
# Posted: 24 Aug 2006 10:44


If you are genuinely interested in this tradition check out this website:

http://www.shivashakti.com/


Ray Harris
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Dikshita
# Posted: 29 Sep 2006 04:49


I want to return to the Kundalini experience. I have spent considerable time in a tradition where Kundalini is an essential aspect of spiritual practice. It's not something to play around with - and yes, it can flare up in a number of ways, even causing psychotic episodes.

It is best to seek giuidance from an experienced Kundalini teacher. I'm in Australia so I can't make any recommendations for England or elsewhere, other than to say there are several groups who are expert in Kundalini. I was taught through Siddha Yoga, under both Muktananda and Chidvilasanda - but there are others.

But a word of caution, don't be naive, not all people who claim expertise are experts. You are supposed to do your own research.

According to yoga theory the body's energy system can be blocked by samskaras (impressions/knots). When Kundalini is aroused it can try and remove these impressions - they can be physical, emotional, mental, sexual and spiritual impressions. As they are being removed you can experience real physical, emotional, etc stress. There are a number of medical modalities that can diagnose and assist, Ayurveda and Chinese traditional medicine, some African and tribal groups have some understanding.

However, a Kundalini expert with a sound lineage can both awaken and calm Kundalini. They will usually advise undertaking a formal program of chanting (kirtan), hatha yoga, meditation and puja.

In regard to India and psychosis/schizophrenia - there is sometimes a confusion between divine madness and just plain madness. In the west divine madness was often confused wirth plain madness, in India it can be the opposite, plain madness can be confused with divine madness. There's more than a few sadhus and avadhuts who are just plain crazy.

In regard to drugs - certain drugs can stimulate Kundalini and others suppress it. All ecstatic traditions have some form of drug use. In India some Shaivite sects use hashish, in fact one name for hash is Shiva. But such drugs should really only be used in a guided, ritual context.

In the 70's in the US, the wife of the psychologist Stanislav Grof, Christina, went through a serious of powerful Kundalini experiences. As a result she formed the Spiritual Emergency Network because many psychologists were sending Kundalini cases to the nut house. So I'd do a search for SEN, or some similar group and ask their advice.


Kama
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Rishi
# Posted: 29 Sep 2006 10:59


Quoting: Ray Harris
However, a Kundalini expert with a sound lineage can both awaken and calm Kundalini. They will usually advise undertaking a formal program of chanting (kirtan), hatha yoga, meditation and puja.



I find that calming Kundalini is the real issue that "experts" do not want to talk about... how do you expect to waken Kundalini in people whose lives can not and will not be lived in a society that is balanced and wholesome... There is little point asking people to rebalance their lives knowing that they are compelled to live in an unbalanced society.

That is why I think there is a need for Kundalini-like experiences that are bounded by physical limitations that allow them to have a clear beginning, happening and most importantly an END... In Kundalini for most people I think the exit strategy must be the most important element... if you don't know how it will end...don't start...

That is why I argue that although most people can not live a disciplined live they should not be excluded from the touch of heaven. Such an experience can awaken desire or it can allow a troubled soul enough release to be able to continue their regular life...

This is why I am so careful to ensure that there is a physical limitation to the exercises I engage in and that I do not allow deferral of orgasm to create a linked circle of increasing experience. This is why I always ensure that any puja involves male orgasm, so it physically cuts the path before it completes the circle...

I actually think the sustained deferral of male orgasm for the unitiated is very risky, because it is the desire without conclusion that can easily become a circle of experience that becomes never ending... That is why I think most men under the age of 65 should have regular orgasms unless there are in ritual discipline.


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Cuni
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Bhakta
# Posted: 2 Oct 2006 21:40


I never like to defer my orgasm for toooooo long


dolphin
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Dikshita
# Posted: 3 Oct 2006 15:49


Alfa: I'm not entirely sure how you can "activate" the Kundalini from having sexual intercourse. However from my minimal experience on this matter - its by no means a very pleasant feeling.

The story goes - I used to do a lot of Transendental Meditation at one point a few years ago, I dont know, in a way this was the only way to take my mind away from feeling like being raped (from behind) and spanked on the arse by my ever troubled youth (no homo, please!). Anyway, one day I felt an intense pain in my stomach area. It wasn't a sort of a pain that I could try and explain at my local GP. My stomach in itself felt fine and it wasn't like I had the $hits or anything as there weren't any nuclear explosions in the loo. However, there was this intense pain arising out of no where all around the stomach area which was temporarily tensed/ clenched and I couldn't ease it even when I tried to.

I didn't say anything to my family as I didn't want them to be worried, and I didn't tell my friends as, well, they'd just think it was a load of mumbo jumbo.. So, I took advice from a purohit friend of mine and he said it was to do with kundalini, and energy overflow etc, the content of which I am yet to unravel. But, he did a few pujas the following day and in a few days I started to feel okay'ish.

I think like you said - its the memory of this sudden unexplainable pain that makes me feel uneasy. I wouldn't advice anyone to go in search of it.


Kama
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Rishi
# Posted: 3 Oct 2006 19:55


Uncontrollable cramps and anxiety attacks are not pleasant, but this is why I think kundalini investigations need to be carefully structured to ensure that they address a specific need. Someone who needs to regains a physical and spiritual well-being is going to have a very different experience of kundalini than someone having a very structured sexual puja.


I believe Sex with Men is Divine and draws me closer to my Gods. Kama's website
Audit
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Dikshita
# Posted: 9 Apr 2007 15:05


Quoting: Kama
This is why I am so careful to ensure that there is a physical limitation to the exercises I engage in and that I do not allow deferral of orgasm to create a linked circle of increasing experience. This is why I always ensure that any puja involves male orgasm, so it physically cuts the path before it completes the circle...


Dear Kama:
Will you please enlite us with your system as well as rituals of pujas that involves lingom and long prolonged sustained male orgasms. Is it (the same orgasm) equally applicable for Youni the other puja participant?

With warmest regard
Audit


Audit
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Dikshita
# Posted: 10 Apr 2007 15:58


Dear Kama:

I have made a little research on kundalini activation and des-activation. However, it seems that this is only applicable for men. Interestingly, any one who needs to activate the energy of kundalini needs the participation of a female in his upashona, so far I could not found that a female also can experience of the same.

However, going through the discussions and your blogs, it seems to both males and females highest level of satisfaction and charged with self-esteem (close to kundalini experience) from the Kama chakra pujas which you practice as a part of your worship rituals.

I think it would be of high importance as well as beneficial for the dikhsits and bhaktas if you as rishi (learned personality and experienced teacher) share and teach through your web site.

With fond regards
Audit


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